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Old 02-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Melissa from Super Shoots Peoria

Just wanted to share a few photos of Melissa with ya all.
I posted some of a different girl a few weeks ago and got not such great response...maybe you'll like these better!?
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Melissa from Super Shoots Peoria

Good lookin stuff Dean...she's a beauty...
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Re: Melissa from Super Shoots Peoria

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I posted some of a different girl a few weeks ago and got not such great response...maybe you'll like these better!?
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It's often difficult to decide whether to comment on a post of several photos because sometime we are not sure whether the photographer wants comments about the model, or about the photographs, or what? This is a case in point. Are you wanting or expecting a critique of the photos or just an appreciation of the beautiful model?

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It's often difficult to decide whether to comment on a post of several photos because sometime we are not sure whether the photographer wants comments about the model, or about the photographs, or what? This is a case in point. Are you wanting or expecting a critique of the photos or just an appreciation of the beautiful model?

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with humor.....
Sometimes I wonder about the same thing when you post your collages.

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with humor.....
Sometimes I wonder about the same thing when you post your collages.

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The reasons I responded to the original post, was due to the comment about not getting a great response to a previous post of photos. I'm always full of critiques of posted photos (as everyone know by now ). I also like critiques of photos I post. Of course, a collage usually means one wants a critique about the collage itself, rather than each image in it. I have a rule that each collage has to have at least one photo in it with something that someone can call me to task on.

Since EOYM posted 4 photos, and I felt they all had problems, I wanted to know for sure that he wanted comments on them before sharing my ideas about the images.

Anyway, since you mention collages, I'll have to post one for you:



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Re: Melissa from Super Shoots Peoria

Wow! Triplets! Cool!

So..where's the collage??
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The reasons I responded to the original post, was due to the comment about not getting a great response to a previous post of photos. I'm always full of critiques of posted photos (as everyone know by now ). I also like critiques of photos I post. Of course, a collage usually means one wants a critique about the collage itself, rather than each image in it. I have a rule that each collage has to have at least one photo in it with something that someone can call me to task on.

Since EOYM posted 4 photos, and I felt they all had problems, I wanted to know for sure that he wanted comments on them before sharing my ideas about the images.

Anyway, since you mention collages, I'll have to post one for you:


Cheers,
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Lots of people post photos here, it's not that uncommon. Sometimes photos get responses and sometimes not so much.
It is what it is.
But go ahead and tell me of the problems you see. I don't pretend my photos are perfect.
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Well its review time!

It's easy to just say, "great shots" and/or "great model", but that rarely really does much for the overall all goal that all of us have as photographers, and that is to advance our work to the next level.

I think the four photos have some good things going for them such as crisp lighting, a pretty model, good makeup and and interesting setting that has good potential.

But I think in general that there were details about the setting that tended to distract from the overall impact of the photo.

Photo #1 is the most obvious example of this situation. First there is the tilt of the photo that makes it look odd and adds nothing to the photo but just calls attention to itself. The slant of the window is particularly evident and because it is directly behind the model (and in particular her head), it forms a compositional element that leads the eye to it rather than the model. There is also a general clutter in the scene such as the silver flashlight on the table and the brown and white blocks behind the model. I think these look out of place. I like the way the lighting was done to include the ambient light from the table lamp, but I wonder about the consistency of the light. Since outside of the window is black, we assume that the scene would be lit by ordinary interior light. But the light on the model is not consistent with the light provided by the lamp. In other words it looks like strobe lighting of a ambient lit room. For a glamour shot to really work in a "normal" setting, one likes to see the light on the model and the scene believable for the scene. The pose of the model is also a bit off, in my view. She looks uncomfortable and is slouching a little, probably due to leaning slightly forward with her hands on her knees. The seated position coupled with this slight lean forward tends to make the legs flatten out a bit and thus does not portray them as well as they could be shown.

Photo #2 as many of the same setting issues such as the lantern, the stove pipe and the brightness of the lamp above her head that all work against concentration on the model. Also cropping issues.

Photo #3 has the same lamp problem as the other two but the pose seems more relaxed.

Photo #4 gets rid of the distracting elements by zooming in on the model, but the position of the upper arm seems awkward to me.

So, given that scene and the model, I think a lot more could have been done with it. One thing would be to match the light closer to the ambient light and to do something about the speculars that appear on the sofa (a tricky issue, but one that would improve the photos).

Given that these shot were made in a workshop environment, it is often difficult to control all of the issues that I've been noting. But it would make a good excercise to show those in attendance how settings can be re-arranged for maximum impact and lighting can be matched to a setting.

Anyway, I hope there is something of use here, and if nothing else it gets out of the rut of the "great shot" method of critiquing photos that we all often find ourselves getting in to.



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Thanks for the in-depth and well thought critque RFS.

About photo 1.
I agree that the window behind her is distracting. I noticed that right away and moved my position so as to minimize that problem.
but I disagree with you when you say the pose is uncomfortable...I like her pose in that photo.

And let's look at the third photo and discuss the tilt of the camera.
Look at it and try to visualize what would have happened with that shot had I not tilted the camera....I would have had to back way off in order not to crop off her feet. I wanted a tight shot and I wanted all of her in it.
I like camera tilt, though I do agree that with all the lines in this room, from the logs, the drapes...etc, did cause problems.
And yes, there are many objects in this setting...that's what a setting is.
Would it have been better in your view had I shot this with the background black? I could have...there was really no ambient light to speak of. All the light you see in the photos, except for the small table lamp, was provided by two strobes (fitted with umbrellas) and a reflector. I would have loved to have had some ambient light to work with...that wasn't the case here at all.

You also mentioned that I should have done something about the specular highlights on the couch, I actually like them! What exactly do you not like about them?...and what would you do to get rid of them?
Difference in taste I guess.
I almost feel like you were just trying a little too hard to find things not to like, but that's ok. To each his own.
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Sperb!

Just my opinion: If the colors were different, may be, it might have made a big difference. I am talking about the color of the couch vs. color of the lingerie.
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